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title: "平常心 Normality - 斷煩惱執著的階位：二禪 The stage of destroying clinging : the second Jhana"
description: "Part 2: Walking The Path 第2篇：行道"
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Part 2: Walking The Path 第2篇：行道

2-3. Stages of Practice 修學階段

2-3-4. WORKING WITH THE MIND第二階段：對治自心修習階段 (或看念頭(心)修習階段)

2-3-4-2. The stage of destroying clinging : the second Jhana 斷煩惱執著的階位：二禪

(KNOWING DEFILEMENT, CRAVING. CLINGING AND KAMMA了悟煩惱、貪愛、執著與業)

At this point, when I knew this, a shift in my mind occured 2 times, I was doing walking-meditation at the time ; it was in the early evening ; I had taken a bath already and was ready to go chanting. Suppose my body weighted 100 kilos ; at that time 60 kilos dropped off me. Let me speak plainly and say that I've destroyed greed, hatred and delusion. I'll give you another comparison : it's just like a leech that sticks on you ; no matter how we try to pull it off, it won't come off. But now, instead of taking hold of the leech, we just mix some tabacco and lime together and having dipped it in water, we squeeze it onto the leech. The leech will come off easily because it can't stand this mixture. Or it's like boiling water and rubbing it on skin : it becomes white and the germs die. For this reason, I dare to guarantee the teachings of the Buddha.

當我了悟這點(名-色, 即無貪瞋痴，唯受想行識)時，我心中(第二次)發生了兩層的轉變(他練習自己方法的第三天傍晚)。第一層轉變發生時是傍晚，我洗過了澡，準備去做晚課前，那時我正在經行。坦白跟你們說：我破除了「貪瞋癡煩惱」的疑惑！！打個比方，假設我的身體是一百公斤重，當時我感覺像是甩掉了六十公斤。再舉另外兩個比喻來說：那就像一只水蛭吸著在你身上，不管我們怎麼用力去把它拔掉，就是拔它不掉。但現在我們不去拔它，只去拿香菸和石灰混一混，沾一下水，再把水擠壓在水蛭身上，水蛭(喻貪瞋癡)就會輕易地脫落，因為它受不了這個混合液(喻覺性)。那又像滾燙的水(喻覺性)擦在皮膚上，皮膚立刻變白而細菌(喻貪瞋癡)也會被燙死。因為這樣，所以我敢保證佛陀的教導。

Then, as I was walking up and down, a thought came up, just like scooping water on the field : the water gushes out fast and swiftly goes down ; it feels like it goes down in a flash. Now, I had awareness on another level, it seemed like it was perfect and I understood what clinging is. I really knew it, defilement, craving, clinging and intentional action, I really knew it, at that moment.

接下來，就在我來回經行時，突然一個念頭生起，但我感覺：念頭瞬間就脫落，就像舀水潑在地上，水迅速散出並立即落地。此時，我的覺知達到另一層次，幾已圓滿完美，並且了悟什麼是「執著」，我如實真知「煩惱、貪愛、執著和意志造作」，我那時確實真實了悟。

There was a shift in my mind a second time ; on understanding those things, they became insipid, tasteless. Just like dipping cotton-wool in water and sqeezing the water out. I truly realized this, I'm speaking honestly, I really know this, this is the result I got !

接著我心中又有了第二層轉變，在了悟這些之後，它們變得平淡無味了，就像將綿毛浸水之後，再把水擠了出來似的。我真的了悟了這個境界，我是很誠實地跟你們說，我真實地了悟這個境界，這是我得到的果證！

As for the cause : don't be lazy, really determine to practice and develop awareness continuously ; then, what I've been saying will happen by itself. If it's not like that, then it's not right.

因此，不要懈怠，要真正下決心去修習並持續地培養覺性；然後，我上面說的這些就自然會發生。如果不是像我講的這樣，那你修的就不對了。

(BEING A NOBLE ONE 超凡入聖)

When I knew this, I understood the defilements due to Vipassana. At the time that I was under the influence of those defilements, I knew this and that until I had a headache, but I didn't know that it was defilement due to Vipassana. I saw numbers and knew a countless number of things because I didn't see thought, didn't see the mind, didn't see my life. But when I saw thought, saw the mind and saw life, I knew that knowing all those things until my head ached, was knowledge coming from defilements due to Vipassana. Knowing this, I understood the value of being a Noble one. A Noble one is an excellent one. A stream-enterer, a once-returner, I really know, I knew at that instant. This is called the first and second Jhana. According to the scriptures the first Jhana destroys deluded views ; that is, it destroys greed, destroys hatred and destroys delusion. The second Jhana destroys clinging ; that is, it destroys defilements, craving, clinging and Kamma. At first I didn't know ; when I realized Rupa-Nama, I thought that I'd got the first Jhana, but in fact it wasn't so. One can't deny it altogether because Rupa-Nama is right but it's only the outer bark.

當我了悟這個時，又了悟了「觀障(由毘婆奢那引起的染污)」，但當我受到那些染污影響，不斷地體悟到這個、那個……，乃至連頭都痛了的時候，我並不知道那是觀障(由毘婆奢那引起的染污)。由于我沒有看見念頭、沒有看見心，沒有看見自己的生命，所以我看到(樂透)號碼以及了知很多的事物，但當我看見念頭、看見心且看見生命，我體會到：我之前所體悟的這個那個乃至到頭都痛了的這一切體悟，是來自觀障(由毘婆奢那引起的染污)的智慧。了悟這點之後，我體會到超凡入聖的重要。所謂聖者就是超凡卓越之人：也就是入流與一來果的聖者，我當下真實了悟：這就是所謂的初禪和二禪。依經典所說，初禪是破除見惑，也就是說，破除了對貪瞋癡的疑惑。二禪破除執著，也就是破除煩惱、貪愛、執著與業(即薄貪瞋癡)。我最初並不知道這些，因此當我了悟色-名時，我那時以為：我已得到初禪！但事實上那還不是。然而，我們也不能完全否定它，因為了悟色-名也是正確的，只不過那僅是樹的外皮罷了。

(ANALYTICAL KNOWLEDGE IS A NEGATIVE RESULT解慧非正果)

At this point, I was caught in analytical knowledge but I didn't know what analytical knowledge was and I didn't know what abnormal views were either - I only knew the defilements due to Vipassana. When I was caught in analytical knowledge, joy arose in me : wow, I was happy, at ease and felt light all over - this is where I got stuck. While doing walking-meditation, I felt as if I was floating ; wherever I went, I was as light as a feather, feeling relaxed and at ease. I could clearly see moods ; whatever somebody might say, I would not get angry ; there was no anger, there was no greed, there was no delusion. Awareness was so quick : snap ! it could keep up with thought. Just like a cat and a mouse. You listeners have to do it this way in order to get out of the power of thought ; when a thought comes : snap, it is seen.

此時(了悟觀障後)，我又纏縛在解慧之中，但我不知道什麼是解慧，也不知道什麼是偏邪異見，我只了悟觀障(由毘婆奢那引起的染污)。當我陷入解慧當中時，內在生起了喜悅：哇！我很高興！感到輕安自在且全身輕飄飄的—這就是我被困住的地方。經行時，我感覺好像飄了起來；不管去哪里，感覺輕得像根羽毛，感覺輕松自在。我可以清楚地看清情緒，不管人家說什麼，我都不會生氣，沒有瞋、沒有貪、沒有癡。覺性簡直快到不行：啪的一聲！它就追上念頭了，就像貓捉老鼠那樣。諸位聽眾！你們必須要這樣練習，才能擺脫念頭的勢力；要當念頭生起來時，啪的一聲！就看見它！

When it was like this, in the evening, I did walking-meditation and when it was time, I went to sleep. In the morning, I experienced another 2 shifts in my mind. What I'm saying is really true ! The cause of it is developing awareness, having awareness, not talking and chatting ; I didn't chitchat with this and that person ; I did my duty. When I was practicing, there were 23 monks and 5 laypeople, they all knew something different, but what I knew was not like their knowledge. I don't know what they were talking about but nobody talked like I did. Some monks ordained for 30 years but didn't get anything, they were only interested in repairing their huts which wasn't necessary at all ; it's better to really determine to practice. Those who were busy repairing this and fixing up that, didn't develop awareness regularly, so they didn't see their own thoughts, they were lacking in awareness.

當我練到這樣，(第三天)當晚，我練經行，時間到了就去睡覺。隔天(他練習自己方法的第四天)早上，我心中又(第三次)經歷了兩層轉變，我說的是真的！這些轉變的原因是由于培養覺性，是由于有覺性，而不是由于說話和聊天；我沒有跟這個人或那個人東拉西扯，我做我的本分事。我在那里練習時，一共有23位和尚和5個在家眾，他們各有不同的體悟，但我所體悟的和他們的不同。我不知道他們在說什麼，但沒有人的說法跟我一樣。有些和尚出家三十年但卻一無所獲，他們只對修補茅蓬這種完全沒必要的事有興趣，實在不如真實下定決心好好練習呀。這些忙著修東補西的人，沒有持續不斷地培養覺性，所以他們沒有看見自己的念頭，他們沒有覺性。